Slowcity.ca: You've been really busy as per usual, LOTL tour, and again with Steve and Chris, tell me about the genesis of this EP Thrash Talking at the Speed of Sound and how do you find the time?
Ron Hawkins: “Well, the EP started out as a "two producers" album I was going to make with Producer/Songwriter Devon Lougheed (Altered By Mom / Skye Wallace Band). We were going to contribute five songs each and were going to produce each others' songs. But then Covid happened, and after much consideration (not least of which was it might be confusing if there was yet ANOTHER entity I was involved with releasing music) we decide Devon would just produce a six song EP for me. So these were songs I had already written and had demoed quite extensively in my basement studio (55 Below!). So what turned out happening was I sent Devon all the tracks I had demoed - he added his own flourishes, flagged a few takes he wanted me to nail more convincingly (ha ha) and then he mixed the all.
As for how it all gets done - I found that if you stay in this insane biz long enough you get to a sort of Zen/ Jedai place where in you are always hustling and working but it never seems like work and everything just seems to slot itself in somewhere. A dance that happens wherein you just react to the creative stuff and don't sweat the capitalism or the toxic bullshit that is everywhere around us in this world.”
SC: The tracks seem chunkier to me, broader, did you approach production differently on this?
RH: “Yeah, I would say it was a perfect storm, or a happy accident wherein I was stretching a bit artistically, playing with new sounds and trying stuff out at the same time I hooked up with Devon who is a generation and a planet away from me talent and mix mastery wise. I learned a huge amount from him on this project. He is another artistic jedai. He just rolls with the punches and listens to what the song needs. . . then makes it 200% better.”
SC: I'm always curious how an artist decides where songs go when they have bands, side projects and solo - how does that work for you?
RH: “To some degree it's whomever is making a record in May. . . or September and what songs do I have lying around. Solo, Lowest of the Low, Do Good Assassins? I mean I'm being a bit glib about it but it's a bit like that. Though sometimes I write something and it's so obviously a Low song (angry, a bit scrappy) or a solo song (am I trying something completely new for me) etc.”
SC: We have collectively shared something extraordinary with Covid 19 - and now we are back out there - how are you approaching touring, performing, has the pandemic informed your decisions on any level?
RH: “Not really. I mean I know we're not really "post pandemic" yet but everyone seems to be acting like it. I'm a good mammal so I'm following along and doing shows and going to shows etc. Where I see it most is in how expensive it's gotten post Covid - Sprinter rental, gas, road food etc. And of course because we are art workers our wages have not gone up at all so there have literally been some shows we had to say "sorry, can't afford to get there". That's certainly a first, at least in my career.”